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Thank you, Yajvan ji ! This thread is coming up wonderfully !!

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This level of awareness some call bhagavat chetana. The word bhagavat means 'divine'. It is given to viṣṇu-kṛṣṇa , ṣiva, mother divine (bhagavatī). Some times the divine is called bhagavan or bhagavantaḥ ( as a group).
The point here is the individual's experience is that of seeing the divine in His/Her creation. One now has this divine awareness to appreciate the divine within creation.
We can then see from personal and direct experience, one can become the bhāgavata - the 'follower' of the divine, of bhagavan. Because now it is a personal experience. No pretending, no mood making, but a direct personal experience of Īśvara's creation on the level of the senses ( touch, taste, smell, etc)
A quality or ~feature~ of this bhagavat chetana is called pratimīlana.
Pratimīlana = prati + mīlana ; back again, return, or 'on par with' (prati) + closing the eyes ( mīlana). It means both inward awareness (nimīlana) and outward awareness (unmīlana¹).

The experient now has this most noble experience of being secured, steady and grounded in one's own Self (atma-jñana or knowledge of the Self) yet when the eyes are open he/she experiences the environment/universe as non-different then his/her Divine Self. All details ( flowers, earth, objects of the earth, etc. and sky ) are seen in realtionship to one's own Self.

How could one's own heart not swell in adoration to the Supreme ? One becomes the bhāgavata - the 'follower' of the divine.



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unmīlana - see post 30 above for the description and context of these words.
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One other term we find in kaśmiri śaivism is khecarī mudrā when defining higher (fuller) levels of awareness that the aspirant may unfold.

If we just look at the face value of these words khecarī mudrā , we would have the posture or position ( mudrā ) of moving in the air , flying (khecarī). One immediately may think ' oh, this is about siddhi-s and flying in the air'. This is not the case, as we need to go a few steps deeper to bring out a better level of apprecation.
  • khecarī is a compound ( some grammarians may call it aluk samāsa), with one of its components being kha.
  • This kha is rooted (√) in khan meaning a cavity , hollow , cave , cavern , aperture; some call a vacuum or vyoman or ākāśa, hence the notion of sky. Yet it is also another name for brahma (the Supreme ).
  • The second part of this compound khecarī is carī . This carī is rooted (√) in car and defined as to move or travel through , pervade ; it means to move one's self , go , walk , move , stir , roam about.
We now have a fuller picture of this word khecarī - it is to move about or pervade (car) within vyoman or ākāśa, within brahma. Now we add in mudrā and it becomes one's posture or postion to move about within vyoman or ākāśa, within brahma.

Yet what does it mean? It suggests that the individual resides and moves and is ~postured~ within the fullness of brahma ( the Supreme);
Brahma means brahman ( and not brahmā, part of the triad of brahmā, śiva and viṣṇu).

Yet one may ask why associate this experience with a vacuum or vyoman or ākāśa ? We will take a look in the next post.


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Yet one may ask why associate this experience with a vacuum or vyoman or ākāśa ?
... in a few words , it is empty of objects. One withdraws ( as it were) from the multiplicity of things, of diversity, and resides within the SELF. It is the notion of contrasting diversity with absolutely no diversity. The notion of 'many' compared to 'void'.

Hence it is described as khecarī mudrā or moving in the void.


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This kha is rooted (√) in khan meaning a cavity , hollow , cave , cavern , aperture; some call a vacuum or vyoman or ākāśa, hence the notion of sky. Yet it is also another name for brahma (the Supreme ).
It also means infinite and zero(nothingness){kham}
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It also means infinite and zero(nothingness){kham}
If I were choosing a name for zero, I would apply the word śūnya.

Yet if we use 'kha' (another) nice definition for this is 'a hole made by an arrow', hence the application to the numerical 0.
Also kha is the anusvāra represented by a circle (bindu). And as aforementioned kha is rooted (√) in khan meaning a cavity , hollow , cave , cavern , aperture; some call a vacuum or vyoman or ākāśa, hence the notion of sky. Yet it is also another name for brahma (the Supreme ), and still applies.


Yet for a fuller understanding of kha and of kham I direct the reader to the bṛhadaraṇyaka upaniṣad ( some write bṛhadaraṇyakopaniṣad ) om kham brahma brāhmaṇa, and to the chāndogya upaniṣad 4th chapter (some call parvan), 10th section (or adhyāya) we see the discussion of kam and kham. When tied to the bṛhadaraṇyaka upaniṣad's offer, the knowledge shines through.

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If I were choosing a name for zero, I would apply the word śūnya.
I was going through lilavati by bhaskaracharya ,wherehe tells the properties of zero like0*0=0,0+0=0 etc all zeros were represented by khm He has special verses describing the peculiar properties of zero. He lists eight rules such asa+ 0 = 0, 02= 0,√0 = 0,a×0 = 0 etc. The interesting aspect of this verse is the
definition of infinity or Khahara
as a fraction who’s denominatoris zero. In other words,a/0=∞. He knew that whenever a number was divided by zero, itlead to a problem. He gives a verse on the nature of this infinity as follows (copied from translation):“There is no change in infinite (khahara) figure if some thing is added to or sub-tracted from the same. It is like there is no change in infinite Visnu (Almighty)due to dissolution or creation of abounding living beings”.


Also of the 3 sounds of the universe one is om, other is khm & other is km कं
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Also of the 3 sounds of the universe one is om, other is khm & other is km कं
So I do not miss a finer point, can you advise how this knowledge fits into the string and recent thoughts as it is prudent to stay on topic.


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an you advise how this knowledge fits into the string and recent thoughts as it is prudent to stay on topic.

It is just a little more info to enlighten readers
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