PranAm,
This is the reason why some persons can not comprehend Advaita in its true essence. They may know all is Brahman or Jiva is Brahman, but this is even refuted by the highest aspect of knowledge, which is known as Nirguna Knowledge. Such knowledge can not be expressed in just words. It is understood only at the consciousness level. I'd understood such abstract knowledge only at the age of 13. Without reading any scripture, I had realised that all is one, differences are not real and all jiva are one. So from where such knowledge came? Through scriptures or through my consciousness?
Originally Posted by
renuka
2nd stanza says:
To know that 'I am Devadatta' does not require any proof;
so,for a knower of Brahman,the knowledge that "I am Brahman" does not require proof.
Yes, there is no need of proof to establish the glory of Atma who is everlasting free from bondage. 'I am Brahman ' conviction can be attained only through sharp logical reasoning and by meditating on the self.
The Vedas,Satra-puranas and all the sacred books and all the teachers of the world have their existence through His existence.How can they manifest Him who is the Knower of all?
Yes,these Shastras and Puranas are the subjects of Ignorant people and Vedas had to come at the level of Ignorant man, thinking according to Maya. Veda has no gut to manifest brahman which is not in the scope of words.
Veda doesn't tell us what is actually Brahman. If the mind can not even touch it, how can veda manifest Brahman? No one can manifest Brahman, which is eternal beyond any attribute. What I say, manifestation of Brahman is never possible.
Veda's secret is that it does nothing yet people think Veda gives Moksha. It's just a great illusion. See how mysterious this is, without doing anything it removes Maya. It uses Maya (Knoweledge) itself to remove Maya. It's just like removing one thorn by another thorn. Veda cleverly assume dualities and in the end merging all dualities in the Brahman becomes quite, without saying what actually is Brahman.
So it is very clear that veda imparts knowledge, which is itself born out of Maya. Though it seems that veda is removing ignorance which is veiled over Jiva, it does nothing. Because this ignorance is imagined on true base of Brahman and has no any existence at all. So if this is the reality, how would veda remove non-existent ignorance ? Eg. Ignorant person is seeing foot prints of bird in the sky, he's imagining this. Other well-minded person is saying to him ' Stop this dreaming. There are not footprints at all.' That person awakes and see the reality. So think deeply !Has that person revealed the bird without footprints in a real sense or was he actually seeing that bird only? He was already seeing it (Bird) but was imagining its footprints. Similarly Jiva is already established in Brahman. Though there appears ignorance or knowledge, there's no any change in Brahman. So calling veda has removed ignorance or has manifested Brahman, both these statements are untrue.
4)Adi Shankara spend time debating with Buddhist and finally I feel the other 3 stanzas actually sounds very much like a Buddhistic view where one can reach the state of Buddhahood(Enlightenment) and Vedas is NOT pramAnyam that is Vedas is not a pre requisite to know the Truth.
No need to demolish veda's essence.. What is veda and its real essence is out of the scope of unintelligents.
So at the end of the day it seems like Adi Shankara actually "agreed' with the Buddhist.
Instead of concluding this through vague intellect, I'd suggest you to grow up and increase your logical reasoning power at both intellect and consciousness level. By doing this only, mystery of Shankara's greatest teachings will get unveiled.
I guess Lord Buddha was called Atheistic for nothing at all!(even though He would have really meant that the Vedas is not pramAnyam to know Brahman)
Adi Shankara never rejected Veda Pramana, otherewise he would not have quoted so many verses from scriptures, so if someone is quite intelligent he would not say shankara rejected veda. He would say there must something another reason for why shankara has said that. Use your common sense . Veda-Purana are under the field of maya. Adi Shankara has viewed them comparing with pure highest Brahman. If you are not understanding how, then, I think, you should stay at peace, no need to distort Shankara's vedic teachings into Atheists Buddhists teachings.
Thank You
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