Originally Posted by
atanu
I concur fully with you that discrimination based birth, social /financial status, lineage, sex is crime. Yet, I feel that there is another aspect that needs to be clarified for the sake of a ongrudge/discrimination and bias free existence. Lord Krishna, in addition to stating that the four varna division is based on Guna & Karma also says that He ensures good birth for certain souls. He certainly speaks of repeated birth and the role of Karma over several lives that controls birth.
Much discontent in individuals (and in society) can be mitigated, if it is understood that if one is born in a certain ambience with certain qualities (bad or good), it is by one's karma. Without knowing or with half understanding of Karma and its role in one's destiny/environment, one will only crib about 'others'.
Namaste Atanu,
Yes, the birth in a certain family, ambience is an important ingredient it is decided by one's karma. However, this family/ ambience is not exactly decided by "Caste" as I see it. Lord Krishna says, " shuchInam shrImtAm gehe yogbhrashtobhijAyte ... athwA yoginAmeva kule bhavati dhImtAm". If we see these two sentences, there is no mention of caste here.
Regarding 'cribbing' ... dear Atanu, alas, I would be happy if today people would crib for being born a brahmin. The reality is, even the brahmins today crib for not being born as SC/ST ! These people are today facing the worst kind of discrimination just on the basis of caste. What is the use of this 'caste' which discriminate you in every walk of life !
Regards.
Namaste Saidevoji,
So why blame the minority brahmins who are in an unenviable position for being born into their caste, especially when a minuscule percentage rigorously stick to their dharma of nourishing the Vedas?
As I mentioned above, there is a need to undo what is being done in the name of caste in this country. I have seen many brahmin families living much below the poverty line devoid of even basic necessities of life, but they don't get any facility, any reservation anywhere. They are discriminated at the time of admission, job & even in promotion in India. This caste system is a curse not against the SCs & STs, it is against the so-called upper castes headed by the Brahmins.
Saying that something can be done only by the Brahmins & not by others is not helping them or the society. It is used as a weapons against them, it is used to fuel passion to bring in more chasm between different castes ... to create vote banks on the basis of caste-discrimination.
There is discrimination in society, in politics, as you say ... I wholeheartedly agree with you. But those are the people, the spiritualists must fight against to end the mindless discrimination. Finally, this society must be saved by someone holding the flag of Sanatan Dharma. Till we leave our fates in the hands of the politicians, nothing is going to change. When the so called Gods of the "dalits" cry hoarse over the so-called, "Brahminvaad" & bay for the blood of the brahmins .... what did the knowers of the scriptures do ? Did they do anything to remove the misconceptions about caste & the varna as per Hindu scriptures ? Any support to any system which discriminates on caste by birth only helps the politicians to keep us divided. This is crime.
Regards,
OM
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