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Im not mean you post politic,
I mean i wrote about the example of political view, and that is only take a example and not my argument .
I personaly dont care about is Buddha an avatar of Vishnu or Vishnu is avatar of Buddha .
Or Vishnu is personal Godhead and Shiva is demigods .
This kind of personal believe
Believe what you want to believe.
I only know, in my heart they are one and i cant make them separate.
What my heart says is already not outer things , but originaly nature from my mind.
Whatever text i read and maybe the text (both Hindu and Buddha ) said this deity is get help from that deity or this deity is number one etc, i not catch it as a reason to see other deity is low or other is high. Absolutely not.
Because for me, these kind of story is only a tool to guide us in meditation state, know and recognize many aspect of our mind.
But if some people see thesse story as a reason to hate each other, what i can do ?
If some people choosee to see theese story as a reason to hate other sect as NON DHARMA , and to say them self as follower of true DHARMA (for both Hindu and Buddhist in any sect), what i can do ?
If they want to fighting until they destroyed each other as offering to Mother Bharat,
What i can do ?
I only doing my part, to tell what i feel toward the teaching of India ancestor and how i use it in my spiritual life
And i only hope, they are stop to attack each other, this is only my wish,
OM. VAJRA. VISHNUYA. SVAHA
OM. VAJRA. GARUDA. CALE CALE. HUM PHAT
OM. AMOGHA VAIROCANA. MAHA-MUDRA. MANI PADMA JVALA PRAVARTTAYA. HUM
Om Saha Nau-Avatu |
Saha Nau Bhunaktu |
Saha Viiryam Karava-Avahai |
Tejasvi Nau-Adhii-Tam-Astu Maa Vidviss-Aavahai |
Om Shaantih Shaantih Shaantih ||
About is Siddharta Gautama is Hindu
i must explain my own opinion here
i have initiated on Buddhist lineage
but i have no problem to say Siddharta Gautama is Hindu
very easy
Buddhist has chant OM kara
they also chant many sacred syllable from Veda
these stuff is from Veda we are know it.
My own lineage Guru, absolutely no problem if we pay homage on Hindu temple
or if we read Hindu sacred text
He also have ever go to Hindu temple and He also respect and Homage
He worship Lord Shiva, Sarasvati Maa etc as He worship Buddha (see them as Highest)
in His explanation and teachings about these Deity , He also explain these Deity is from Hindu
so for my personal , i am is Buddhist, but i am dont have any problem with Hindu, i also no problem to say i am proud to be Hindu, or to be Buddhist
This kind , all is outer aspect
The most important, no matter what sampradaya we are, is how we can put and realize the blessing of Bhagavan on our daily life and share it to another sentient beings , let them also receive the blessing.
Is true that every sect have their own view
even in every sect, every student have their own personal view
but this step of inner spiritual is not a reason to fight each other
The text about the lilas of Bhagavan is beyond our ordinary imagination, and that is not for fight, if you see that as a tool to fight each other
no matter we is Hindu or Buddha, we will destroy each other , not only towards other religion (Hindu vs Buddhist), but also towards other sect in same religion ( some sect of Hindu vs other sect of Hindu, or some sect of Buddhist vs other sect of Buddhist )
When one family want to promote their family life philosophy, what can they say if their own family is fight each other ???
i said this because i still care . . .
because my past life is India,
if i dont care, i will choose to ignore it and forget it all
OM. VAJRA. VISHNUYA. SVAHA
OM. VAJRA. GARUDA. CALE CALE. HUM PHAT
OM. AMOGHA VAIROCANA. MAHA-MUDRA. MANI PADMA JVALA PRAVARTTAYA. HUM
Om Saha Nau-Avatu |
Saha Nau Bhunaktu |
Saha Viiryam Karava-Avahai |
Tejasvi Nau-Adhii-Tam-Astu Maa Vidviss-Aavahai |
Om Shaantih Shaantih Shaantih ||
Anyway,
In Buddhism, all of outer worship is called heretical path (include outer worship of Buddha)
all of method (include method of Buddhism) is called heretical view
include method of Buddhism is not all will suitable for all beings
include method of Buddhism , a practicioner or sadhaka cant attached on method
In Mahayan Tripitaka, there is a Sutra on 4 chapter who is spoken by Vajrasattva, the Sutra is all about the worship of Ganesh !
Many tantric ways, like for different purpose we must made the sclupture of Ganesh with deifferent materials, and offer puja in deifferent ways, and give abhisekam with different liquid , and another difficult puja.
There is also a sutra about Art Goddess who born from Usnisa hair of Shiva, when He dance with all Goddess.
Then this hair manifestation Goddess have a mantra , if we chant it etc, we can get salvation and highest wisdom,
Think it ! She only a manifestation of Hair of Lord Shiva ! but can give us salvation.
So, i think, we cant understand a teaching only from a piece of text
we must looking by the whole teachings
because there is many method for different person
i affraid if missunderstanding will make a chaos between all school of India religion !
OM. VAJRA. VISHNUYA. SVAHA
OM. VAJRA. GARUDA. CALE CALE. HUM PHAT
OM. AMOGHA VAIROCANA. MAHA-MUDRA. MANI PADMA JVALA PRAVARTTAYA. HUM
Om Saha Nau-Avatu |
Saha Nau Bhunaktu |
Saha Viiryam Karava-Avahai |
Tejasvi Nau-Adhii-Tam-Astu Maa Vidviss-Aavahai |
Om Shaantih Shaantih Shaantih ||
Learn from history,
what is the easiest way to defeat some country ?
is make them fight each other with their own brothers.
Why peoples from other country have same feeling and love our land ?
is spread ancestor philosophy to other country.
why i am , who born in Indonesia, not have India ancestor (maybe have),
but i can feel love toward India ? why ?
OM. VAJRA. VISHNUYA. SVAHA
OM. VAJRA. GARUDA. CALE CALE. HUM PHAT
OM. AMOGHA VAIROCANA. MAHA-MUDRA. MANI PADMA JVALA PRAVARTTAYA. HUM
Om Saha Nau-Avatu |
Saha Nau Bhunaktu |
Saha Viiryam Karava-Avahai |
Tejasvi Nau-Adhii-Tam-Astu Maa Vidviss-Aavahai |
Om Shaantih Shaantih Shaantih ||
Shiva is revered as Mahakala in Vajrayana (Tantric) Buddhism, and as a god of wealth in Japan.
Mahakala in Tantric Buddhism is a powerful figure. He is depicted as a wrathful deity, an emanation of Avalokiteshvara, the Lord of Compassion.
Namaste.
You have just reached the very heart of my core beliefs right there and the exact reason as to why I worship Lord Siva in the form of Maha Kala Bhairava/Avilokiteshvara. Nail has been hit firmly and squarely on the head.
Shaivism and Tantric Buddhism are almost inseperable at the core.
Reputation points coming your way.
Aum Batuk Bhairavaye Namah
Aum Namah Shivaya
But not all Buddhist agree that Shiva is perfect being.
This is same with internal of Hindu, not all Hindu sect agree that Shiva is perfect being.
But that is just their , you, or me, or our opinion
Shiva is Shiva
OM. VAJRA. VISHNUYA. SVAHA
OM. VAJRA. GARUDA. CALE CALE. HUM PHAT
OM. AMOGHA VAIROCANA. MAHA-MUDRA. MANI PADMA JVALA PRAVARTTAYA. HUM
Om Saha Nau-Avatu |
Saha Nau Bhunaktu |
Saha Viiryam Karava-Avahai |
Tejasvi Nau-Adhii-Tam-Astu Maa Vidviss-Aavahai |
Om Shaantih Shaantih Shaantih ||
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