Re: THE 10 OFFENSES
Pranam Grames ji
Thank you for your considered reply, I read what you say and I understand but let me explain from where I am coming from, before that let me clear one thing, when I said sri Vyasdev extol three personality let me expand on it as I did not make my self clear on it. In six Sheiva purans which some like to call tamasik there lord Shiva is definitely the supreme diety similarly the six vaishnav purana lord Vishnu is supreme and so on with brahma.
Now there is no question of three Gods unless off course you are a pantheist, therefore at least I am forced to conclude all these must be the same person in different roles creation maintaince and destruction.
If you are influenced by Ramanujachariya or Madhva that is fine but then I am influenced by Tulsidas Goswami Valbhachariya Sridharswami whose Bhagvat puran Sri Chetniya approves, narshimehta and many others for them this offence as presented would hold no water not withstanding the question mark over its translation either.
The supreme Lord is Achintya, there are paradoxes that are hard for the human mind to fully comprehend. Its is clear that for a vaishnav Vishnu is supreme and Shaiva do the same reading same scriptures
If we find within the Veda a statement that Vishnu is supreme and then another that says Rudra is supreme, we might conclude that Vishnu and Rudra must be the same being or different aspects of the same being. In that way there is no inconsistency in the Veda and we can accept its statements as they are, without recourse to unusual interpretations.
This view is confirmed in the Mahabharata. Krishna describes Shiva as narayanatmako jneyah, to be understood as of the same nature as Narayana (12.328.19). And Narayana himself says to Shiva, yas tvam vetti sa mam vetti yas tvam anu sa mam anu/navayor antaram kimcit, 'one who knows you knows myself; one who follows you follows me. There is no difference between us.' (12.328.64). These verses are to be found in the Nara-Narayaniyam, a passage of the Mahabharata that teaches Vaishnavism.
There are other parts of the Mahabharata in which Shiva is said to be the source of Vishnu, Brahma and Rudra. It is here we find the explanation of how Rudra was born from Brahma; this Rudra is not the original Shiva who is the Supreme Deity but a secondary manifestation and it is this secondary manifestation that is associated with the the tamo-guna. In the Anushasana Parvan, Book 13, of the Mahabharata we find this prayer to Shiva:
yo asrijad dakshinad angad brahmanam loka-sambhavam
vama-parshvat tatha vishnum loka-rakshartham ishvarah
yugante chaiva samprapte rudram angat srijat prabhuh
'He is the Lord (ishvara) who from his right side created Brahma the creator of the world and from his left side created Vishnu for the protection of the world. And at the end of the Yuga the mighty Lord creates Rudra from his body.'
And if you add maha vakya Eko Bhudha vadanti you may appreaciate where iam coming from
I am not providing any further evidence from Mhabharat because this is not another Shiva V Vishnu debate.
On the point of tamsik worship of Shiva I can point you to relevant verses in Bhagvat where you find saintly sages worshiping him if you like.
Jai Shree Krishna
Rig Veda list only 33 devas, they are all propitiated, worthy off our worship, all other names of gods are derivative from this 33 originals,
Bhagvat Gita; Shree Krishna says Chapter 3.11 devan bhavayatanena te deva bhavayantu vah parasparam bhavayantah sreyah param avapsyatha Chapter 17.4 yajante sattvika devan yaksa-raksamsi rajasah pretan bhuta-ganams canye yajante tamasa janah
The world disappears in him. He is the peaceful, the good, the one without a second.
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