Namaste axlyz
I didnot reply to your post in the other thread on equality b.w Vishnu and Shiva because you seem to have been brainwashed into thinking that Adi shankara and majority of "vedantins" are Vaishnavaites hahaha
I cant reply to such flimsy suppositions.
Anway heres my answer
Scriptures clearly point out who is Supreme and who is not. Every major Vedantin has come to one main conclusion on who is God.
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No they didnot unless you have been told a lie just like how gaudiyas changed the whole mahabharata( where they said shiva is a bhakta of krishna when its the other way round) and padma purana (where they removed shiva geeta) and also have their own ways of interpreting things like Sri chaitanyas wife died of a snake bite and then it came in the gaudiya text as "snake of seperation" LOL and many more.
And you can also believe whatever is congenial to your blind faith just like how you guys planned a vedic planetarium where the moon is farther away from the sun itself ,earth is flat etc And everything which is not truth seems congenial to you so if you are happy that way so be it.LOL
Also you can chose to live in your small well where a self titled acharya made a statement that the womans brain is half of a mans,women children dont deserve a birth, and child sex should start from 11years
Also, are you trying to say that Krishna's body is made of maya? Because that is something that even Adi Shankara would condemn.
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It is one thing you made a God out of Sri chaitanya etc now can you also stop talking on behalf of someone who has a brain like Adi shankara?
Its one thing you live in your ignorant well can you stop destroying the credibility of intellect by talking on behalf of Adi shankara? And did you say adi shankara thinks Vishnu is superior to Shiva? I dont think so. According to his philosophy Vishnu is one of the three gods who lie at the feet of the wife of Shiva. But thats not the point here and i dont want to even argue about intelligence with someone as superficial and dishonest as you
It is clearly mentioned in Vishnu purana that Krishnas body got burnt and irrespective of how you might whitewash it to suit your self indulgent lie that you call bhakti the fact is only a body with maya can get burnt by fire.
And again the fact that His body got burnt is from Vishnu Purana and not my pov.
My opinion of that verse is the only one that makes sense, and I am sure Sri Vaishnava would back me on this. When Krishna is Narayana, he could have said the Bhagavad Gita again. But he didn't because the Gita is very confidential. To say that Krishna couldn't say the Bhagavad Gita again because he was lacking "yoga" is just as ludicrous as the claim that Shiva "spoke" the Bhagavad Gita through Krishna.
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Well if you say Krishna lacking yoga is ludicrous due to your ignorance fanaticism and failure to comprehend truth then you are calling Krishna ludicrous as that statement is not my pov but said by Krishna HimselfAnd no Sri Vaishnava would agree that Narayana is inferior to Krishna and has "60" qualities vs 64 of Krishna
O Dhananjaya! it is not possible for me to repeat in full (what I said before). For that doctrine was perfectly adequate for understanding the seat, of the Brahman. It is not possible for me to state it again in full in that way. For then accompanied by my mystic power, I declared to you the Supreme Brahman.
Fact remains is that he was the only one who could display the powers of Narayana completely. Proof of this is that Narayana appeared in his original 4 armed to Devaki and Vasudeva, and then BECAME the baby Krishna after hearing their prayers. Also, there is a story where Krishna transformed himself into Narayana just to test the gopis' devotion to him. Plus, he had the discus of Narayana himself. To say he is just a "part" of Narayana is wrong when he is the full Narayana himself.
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Fact for you might define as untruth and laughable for someone with commonsense .Did you think Narayana wasnt there in Vaikuntha while appearing as Krishna?? Then who do you think was maintaining the rest of the universe? With all due respect to your flimsy superficial understanding of God,,God is all pervading. Just because God appeared as Krishna doesnt mean He wasnt present in Vaikunta or anywhere else and either way whatever you blabbered is your pov. Il quote from SB
SB 10.89.58 —
dvijātmajā me yuvayor didṛkṣuṇā
mayopanītā bhuvi dharma-guptaye
kalāvatīrṇāv avaner bharāsurān
hatveha bhūyas tvarayetam anti me
Lord Mahā-Viṣṇu said:I brought the brāhmaṇa’s sons here because I wanted to see the two of you, My expansions, who have descended to the earth to save the principles of religion. As soon as you finish killing the demons who burden the earth, quickly come back here to Me.
Here Lord Mahavishnu clearly states that both Arjuna and Krishna are His Amshas or Kalas. And He orders them to come back to Him quickly
All these arent my versions but are directly from scriptures
Yeah, but as far I know, the Gaudiyas do not say that Vishnu came from Krishna as an incarnation, but that all roopas of the Lord came at the same time. Just as soon as you have a star, you have starlight. Any Gaudiya please feel free to point out my inaccuracies.
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And as far as i know i have read a godforsaken book which says Vishnu has "58" qualities and Krishna has "64" Narayana has "60" This came from the same self proclaimed devotees of krushna who dont know the shape of earth nor do they know reality of universe , who dont even know that moon is a satellite but went on to decide the qualities of Narayana who created everything in the universe.
and also they said that Krishna created Balaram and from balaram the Chaturvyuha comes out and from there Narayana comes out:P
And if all roopas came at one time then why are only 125 years described? Considering the age of the universe is trilllions of years why do you think only 125 years of dwapar yuga of this Manuvantara are described? Where are the rest trillions of years of Krishnas pastimes??
P.S Feeble minds are indeed evil minds.
Scriptures only give Krishna the title of purnavatar, meaning he is Lord Narayana himself. I do not know why you cannot understand this. Narayana is not the origin of Krishna; that is like saying Narayana is the origin of himself.
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Hahaha Is this logic in accordance with your gaudiyas "absolute truth" of earth being flat oetc etc??
Purnavatar meaning complete with the qualities of Narayana or complete with realization of Narayana. But i suppose you dont have the honesty in asking the same question when someone from your line tells that Krishna is the origin of chaturvyuha and Narayana
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