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    Buddha's Role as a Social Reformer

    Vanakkam Everyone,

    Many of you are probably aware that it is quite common among anti-Hindu groups to praise Siddhartha Gautama (aka the Buddha) because he supposedly rejected the caste system. On page 308 of A History of Ancient and Early Medieval India, Upinder Singh analyzes these claims from a critical perspective.

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    Re: Buddha's Role as a Social Reformer

    There is nothing new in this article.
    What is the point of this post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTCUSM View Post
    Vanakkam Everyone,

    Many of you are probably aware that it is quite common among anti-Hindu groups to praise Siddhartha Gautama (aka the Buddha) because he supposedly rejected the caste system. On page 308 of A History of Ancient and Early Medieval India, Upinder Singh analyzes these claims from a critical perspective.

    Buddha was not a social reformer, he was just lost his faith
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    Re: Buddha's Role as a Social Reformer

    This article is also interesting:

    http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/books/wiah/ch11.htm

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    Re: Buddha's Role as a Social Reformer

    The following comes from pages 155-156 of The Earth and Its Peoples, Third Edition:

    After 700 B.C.E. various forms of reaction against Brahmin power and privilege emerged. People who objected to the rigid hierarchy of classes and castes or the community’s demands on the individual could retreat to the forest. Despite the clearing of extensive tracts of land for agriculture, much of ancient India was covered with forest. Never very far from civilized areas, these wild places served as a refuge and symbolized freedom from societal constraints. Certain charismatic individuals who abandoned their town or village and moved to the forest attracted bands of followers. Calling into question the priests’ exclusive claims to wisdom and the necessity of Vedic chants and sacrifices, they offered an alternative path to salvation: the individual pursuit of insight into the nature of the self and the universe through physical and mental discipline (yoga), special dietary practices, and meditation. They taught that by distancing oneself from desire for the things of this world, one could achieve moksha, or “liberation.” This release from the cycle of reincarnations and union with the divine force that animates the universe sometimes was likened to “a deep, dreamless sleep.” The Upanishads—a collection of more than one hundred mystical dialogues between teachers and disciples—reflect this questioning of the foundations of Vedic religion.

    The most serious threat to Vedic religion and to the prerogatives of the Brahmin priestly class came from two new religions that emerged around this time: Jainism and Buddhism.
    Apparently, the Yoga school of philosophy, the Upanishadic movement, Buddhism, and Jainism were all reactions to the Historical Vedic Religion.

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    Re: Buddha's Role as a Social Reformer

    Apparently, you have not studied the upanishads.

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    Re: Buddha's Role as a Social Reformer

    Quote Originally Posted by Sahasranama View Post
    Apparently, you have not studied the upanishads.
    So the Upanishadic movement wasn't a revolt against the Vedic religion?

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    Re: Buddha's Role as a Social Reformer

    Quote Originally Posted by TTCUSM View Post
    Apparently, the Yoga school of philosophy, the Upanishadic movement, Buddhism, and Jainism were all reactions to the Historical Vedic Religion.
    You have just lost all credibility with that statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTCUSM View Post
    The following comes from pages 155-156 of The Earth and Its Peoples, Third Edition:

    Apparently, the Yoga school of philosophy, the Upanishadic movement, Buddhism, and Jainism were all reactions to the Historical Vedic Religion.
    Do you have any real knowledge of Upnishads ?

    And do you found any proof of Brahminisation ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTCUSM View Post
    The following comes from pages 155-156 of The Earth and Its Peoples, Third Edition:

    Apparently, the Yoga school of philosophy, the Upanishadic movement, Buddhism, and Jainism were all reactions to the Historical Vedic Religion.

    Yog Sutra is one of 6 Shastras, then you write about upanishads, I am currently on the BrihadAranyakUpanishad, and all i can find is only vedic religion and no reaction, its the biggest and i am almost done
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