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    Re: New Forum Name

    namaste everyone,
    I was just curious that's all. I wanted to see if I should be securing more domain names that we could forward to HDF. I was just looking to see what other names people might be interested in, if any.

    Regarding upgrades and Virtual Private Server (VPS), I have been looking at acquiring both.

    First, you should know that HDF is hosted on a shared hosting server. This means that there are hundreds of other sites and databases on the same server and we share the resources offered by the server. For us, this has been working so far but going forward this will not work as with Shared hosting they do no provide much control (server level) to the admin. This means that I do not have admin level access to the application and database servers.

    In case of problems on the shared server I must rely on the hosting companies support staff to look into issues. Most of the time the support staff is useless as they are lowest paid workers and they have pressures to close the ticket quickly. Since I am a tech, this frustrates to me to no end and I rather manage the servers myself.

    For people like me, there is an option offered by the hosting company called Virtual Private Server. This is where the hosting company will create a virtual space on a physical server and give me control over that virtual space. I would then have server level control over the site and database. This option raises the cost to five times the current cost. Although cost is not an issue, there is a technical problem with the hosting company. I am not clear on if as admin I will be able to install the latest backend database and web technologies on the VPS provided by them. I am looking into it. I need the rights to install server software that I want because the forum software's latest version requires specific versions of the backend, app and server os.

    To cloud the issue a bit more, I want to move away from the current hosting provider. The current hosting provider was number one when we started the forum, however, their service has degraded and owners have changed. However, the current hosting provider also is the registrar of the domain name. And to move the domain to another registrar though not impossible, is tricky and will result in longer outages that I would like.

    What I want to do is this:
    - move hosting account to another provider
    - purchase VPS account
    - install latest versions of backend and application (all freeware)
    - purchase Vbulletin latest software
    - upgrade (this is tricky as we have not upgraded since inception)
    - move domain to new registrar (very tricky as I have privacy enabled and privacy is handled by a third party)
    - point domain servers of new registrar to the upgraded version of hdf in the new VPS environment

    This all has to be done while the forum is still active. Therefore, it will require planning and a lot of work is involved to do this. I want to minimize interruptions because more time offline effects google ratings and bots run away from the site.

    None of this is your worry and I am capable enough to do all of this myself, however, I wanted to share this with you so that you can see that there is work to be done, I am aware of it, it will get done but it will take some time.
    satay

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    Re: New Forum Name

    Quote Originally Posted by satay View Post
    namaste everyone,
    I was just curious that's all. I wanted to see if I should be securing more domain names that we could forward to HDF. I was just looking to see what other names people might be interested in, if any.

    Regarding upgrades and Virtual Private Server (VPS), I have been looking at acquiring both.

    First, you should know that HDF is hosted on a shared hosting server. This means that there are hundreds of other sites and databases on the same server and we share the resources offered by the server. For us, this has been working so far but going forward this will not work as with Shared hosting they do no provide much control (server level) to the admin. This means that I do not have admin level access to the application and database servers.

    In case of problems on the shared server I must rely on the hosting companies support staff to look into issues. Most of the time the support staff is useless as they are lowest paid workers and they have pressures to close the ticket quickly. Since I am a tech, this frustrates to me to no end and I rather manage the servers myself.

    For people like me, there is an option offered by the hosting company called Virtual Private Server. This is where the hosting company will create a virtual space on a physical server and give me control over that virtual space. I would then have server level control over the site and database. This option raises the cost to five times the current cost. Although cost is not an issue, there is a technical problem with the hosting company. I am not clear on if as admin I will be able to install the latest backend database and web technologies on the VPS provided by them. I am looking into it. I need the rights to install server software that I want because the forum software's latest version requires specific versions of the backend, app and server os.

    To cloud the issue a bit more, I want to move away from the current hosting provider. The current hosting provider was number one when we started the forum, however, their service has degraded and owners have changed. However, the current hosting provider also is the registrar of the domain name. And to move the domain to another registrar though not impossible, is tricky and will result in longer outages that I would like.

    What I want to do is this:
    - move hosting account to another provider
    - purchase VPS account
    - install latest versions of backend and application (all freeware)
    - purchase Vbulletin latest software
    - upgrade (this is tricky as we have not upgraded since inception)
    - move domain to new registrar (very tricky as I have privacy enabled and privacy is handled by a third party)
    - point domain servers of new registrar to the upgraded version of hdf in the new VPS environment

    This all has to be done while the forum is still active. Therefore, it will require planning and a lot of work is involved to do this. I want to minimize interruptions because more time offline effects google ratings and bots run away from the site.

    None of this is your worry and I am capable enough to do all of this myself, however, I wanted to share this with you so that you can see that there is work to be done, I am aware of it, it will get done but it will take some time.
    Namaste satay ji,

    I know that you must be knowing all the parameters and options that I am going to point out, but not all members are techncial, neighter am I. I just figured out some points when I was creating matter for my company's new site.

    This is indeed a lot of work with lots of planning and R & D. Lot of care has to be taken. Generally a team takes care of moving database, upgrading server, transferring all data without data loss.

    For the time being, if you feel and can manage changing look-n-feel can be helpful.

    Point to be considered are


    1. Generally having frequently searched keywords in domain name is considered very important from S.E.O. POV (Search Engine Optimization)

    2. Standard practice is to block top level domain names like .org, followed by .net, .in, .co.in and lastly less popular .info

    3. Another point is that if the server is Linux, then even capital and small letters are considered different -is this making things more complex

    4. My webmaster has said that two domain names one with www. and one without www. are different. e.g. is twitter. if you type www.twitter.com, it redirects to https://twitter.com/ (without www. ).

    5. As you are in this field you must be aware that some even redirect misspelled domain names, though this is not a regular practice.

    On the other hand, simply typing hdf and pressing ctrl+enter or 'hdf' and shift+enter is convenient. so may hdf.com, hdf.org would do. Though this looks convenient, it is not good from S.E.O. POV


    If we list alternatives along with priorities,

    1. block related top level domain names - .org, .net (.com is already ours )
    2. with www. and without www. domain names.
    3. Upgrade to VPS or upgrade to latest version of vbulletin has to be selected.

    Above combinations would mean atleast 6 different domain names, enough to loosen your pocket. If you have more funds, then go for blocking HDF.com, but HDF just does not convey any meaning to bots and robots. It is for convenience of end users.

    I think that (1) or even (2) would be helpful to shift database and domain name.

    Later ones include sanatana-dharma-blog, etc, as Yajvan ji mentioned, but they would add unnecessary financial burden, especially when you wish to purchase a VPS and upgrade costly software.

    Have a look at Forum Software Review and it's comparision page

    Well, if cost increase 5 times, can I say do you need help? You do not even use google ad-sense.

    Aum

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    Re: New Forum Name

    Namaste,

    I typed some keywords like hindu dharma, forum for hindus, hindu discussion groups and HDF shows up in search results.

    While when I type sanatan dharma, HDF does not show up, atleast on first page.

    @HDF

    Whats your opinion about the popularity of term 'Sanatan dharma' being used for Hindu dharma. i think it is used more to define or explain Hindu dharma by most people.

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    namah SivAya vishnurUpAya viShNave SivarUpiNe, MBh, vanaparva, 3.39.76

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    Re: New Forum Name

    I'm all totally for new look and on the second thought we could retain the name...like building brand
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    Namaste, the admin.

    hindusharmaforums is the best. We should not change it. We all like it.

    If you still want to change, it will be better for us not to neglect the " hindu " word.[as nowadays followers of vedic dharma call themselves hindu or sanatani and also hindu is a global defination of followers of vedas around the world]

    hinduvedicforums.com or hindusantanaforums.com are my some suggestions.

    i Hope you will agree and understand my pof.


    hare krishna ram.

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    Re: New Forum Name

    Namaste

    We have Hindus participating from all over the WORLD.

    I have no problem with the term HINDU as it has become known through the world as a "catch all" for the very diverse family of adherents.

    This seems to be a place where many different Hindus are in the company or ASSOCIATION viz SANGHA of each other.

    Thus the WORLD HINDU SANGHA ... The world wide web ... The World Hindu Sangha. WorldHinduSangha.com

    But the current name is nice, too. Actually, I just may use the World Hindu Sangha, who knows?

    Om Namah Sivaya

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    Yeah, hinduvedicforums.com or Hindusanatanadharma.com are very appropriate..
    Hari On!

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    Re: New Forum Name

    Namaste,
    We now own
    www.vedicdharmaforums.com
    www.vedicdharmaforums.org
    www.hindudharmaforums.com
    www.hindudharmaforums.org
    www.hindudharmaforums.net

    I have setup a test site on a VPS. Next steps, buy the upgraded version of software and upgrade the forum on the test site.

    I will keep everyone posted.
    satay

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    Re: New Forum Name

    Quote Originally Posted by satay View Post
    Namaste,
    We now own
    www.vedicdharmaforums.com
    www.vedicdharmaforums.org
    www.hindudharmaforums.com
    www.hindudharmaforums.org
    www.hindudharmaforums.net

    I have setup a test site on a VPS. Next steps, buy the upgraded version of software and upgrade the forum on the test site.

    I will keep everyone posted.
    Note to Admin (red is patented, hence cool blue colour)

    Thank you Satay ji for giving HDF. Your efforts to promote our dharma and culture are commendable and definitely worth appreciation.

    Good luck with VPS and forum upgradation. Looking forward to it.

    ---

    You are much more knowledgeable then me. With due respect to all members, the word 'dharma' had to be there.

    From S.E.O. (Search Engine Optimization) POV (Point Of View), 'original' content is the king, which is of course present here and mentioned in the rules as no copy-pasting without commentary or prior understanding. Next important factor is 'sensible' name of Site and domain name. Rest all factors like adding attributes (bold, italics, etc), intra site links, frequency of updates, etc are left to members. Technical ones include, the hidden data which browsers see, e.g. sensible name of image you are using, as robots and search engine crawlers do not read or see image, they read name of image, it's tags like title, alt text, etc. Some more are meta data and if admin wishes, integration with Google Analytics. Blogs and forums running on top rated softwares like vbulletin board / IP Board / Wordpress are S.E.O. optimized by companies. It is said that vbulletin consumes less memory than some other softwares like myBB or phpBB. Alexa rank is also given importance.

    Aum

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    Last edited by Amrut; 26 July 2013 at 02:40 AM.
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    Silence is the study of the scruptures. Meditation is the continuous thinking of Brahman which is to be meditated upon. The complete negation of both by knowledge is the vision of truth – sadAcAra-14 of Adi SankarAcArya

    namah SivAya vishnurUpAya viShNave SivarUpiNe, MBh, vanaparva, 3.39.76

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    Unhappy Re: New Forum Name

    Quote Originally Posted by satay View Post
    Namaste,
    We now own
    www.vedicdharmaforums.com
    www.vedicdharmaforums.org
    www.hindudharmaforums.com
    www.hindudharmaforums.org
    www.hindudharmaforums.net

    I have setup a test site on a VPS. Next steps, buy the upgraded version of software and upgrade the forum on the test site.

    I will keep everyone posted.
    Namaste, why we exclude "Hindu" word?
    There should be a Hindu name as Hindu is well known than vedic dharma outside India. Hindu dharma is the universal name for vedic dharma.

    Please admin, we want Hindu word,
    Thanks
    Hari On!

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