Re: States of existence
Originally Posted by
kallol
1. Matter is acted upon by energies (mechanical, electrical, electromagnetics, chemical, nuclear, etc) which might be manifested in different forms. So energy is the driver of the matter.
Energy is subtler than matter. This becomes the base of my thoughts.
2. Now Energy becomes matter through, as we know, big bang. So energy must have been acted upon. We know it is out of God's mind, which again is the culmination of all minds. Can I assume that mind is driver of the energy ?
So should I assume that mind is subtler than energy ?
3. Again the driver of the mind is consciousness. Does it mean that consciousness is subtler than mind ?
So the flow is matter - energy - minds - consciousness in opposite i.e.
consciousness to mind to energy to matter.
4. Again energy only converts to matter so does it mean consciousnes converts to mind, mind to energy and then energy to matter ? though all should be partial conversions only.
5. Now this, if true, triggers further thoughts. Matters unmanifests unto energy, energy to minds, minds to consciousness. Every stage the attributes are lost unto the higher level where the essence and abstracts are retained. However the individual layers remain in the higher layer in potential state.
6. Now this should mean that the individual minds (and thereby God's mind) get unmanifested unto consciousness. So the next creation (of miinds, energy and matter) will be out of that essence.
7. Though consciousness does not have direct link with matter but then the whole of the chain is out of conciousness. That also brings the notion that everything is nothing but consciousness.
8. Are these the 4 states or the 4th state is beyond this i.e. beyond consciousness. If so how it is defined ? Does it mean that consciousness is out of something ? If yes what is that ?
In Indian monistic philosophies consciousness is everything and energy or prana is its activity in manifested universe. Prana flows through the universe from its highest to lowest levels. The manifested universe is a graded existence which consists of mind, matter etc - but in essence, consciousness only.
The energy you are talking about is another form of mater, its grossness or sublimity w.r.t to matter is best left to physicists, as also speculations on big bang. You will be hard pressed to prove energy comes from mind and I have never heard any mystic experience which says so. On top of that you confuse energy with material energy or energy in matter. All this becomes a hoch-potch of thoughts. Prana I believe is fundamental and awareness itself flows through matter, mind and beyond based on prana. And awareness is Cit.
What is Here, is Elsewhere. What is not Here, is Nowhere.
Bookmarks