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    Interpretation - Help

    Namaste,

    I did not understand the meaning of these two lines of 2nd verse:

    "The four karanas became a single consciousness;
    The three gunas became sole sattva;"







    Could any one tell what are the four karanas and what did they become into?
    Are the three gunas referred here Satva,Rajas and Tamas?What does 'the three' becoming 'sole sattva' mean?

    I am assuming that pure joy-consciousness is Satchitananda.
    Thanks.

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    Vannakkam Ram: I'm nor sure on karana, but the guna one just means that as we go deeper, closer to God, raja and tamasic nature fades and it's all sattvic.

    From here http://www.himalayanacademy.com/view/lexicon karana means causal. 4 causes?

    Aum Namasivaya

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastern Mind View Post
    Vannakkam Ram:the guna one just means that as we go deeper, closer to God, raja and tamasic nature fades and it's all sattvic.

    Aum Namasivaya
    Namaste EM Ji,

    Thanks.

    From here http://www.himalayanacademy.com/view/lexicon karana means causal. 4 causes?


    I checked a Sanskrit dicitionary and there are words with different meaning - Karana,Karanaa,
    Kaarana,Kaaranaa.Kaarana as you said means cause.But in the book it is not clear which of these words Sri Sundarar meant.

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    Dear friend '
    I think , it is mano , buddhi , chittha ,ahamkaras . I am not quite sure , as to what he could have exactly meant . But it could be
    mano =heart
    Buddhi=intellect
    Chittha=mind
    ahamkara =ego

    collectively called Anthahkarana.

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    Re: Interpretation - Help

    Namaste

    Isn't written in Tamil. Can you give me the exact Tamil Versus. I will try

    Thanks
    Anirudh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by saswathy View Post
    Dear friend '
    I think , it is mano , buddhi , chittha ,ahamkaras . I am not quite sure , as to what he could have exactly meant . But it could be
    mano =heart
    Buddhi=intellect
    Chittha=mind
    ahamkara =ego

    collectively called Anthahkarana.
    Vannakkam: I think this is probably correct. Thank you.

    Aum Namasivaya

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    Quote Originally Posted by saswathy View Post
    Dear friend '
    I think , it is mano , buddhi , chittha ,ahamkaras . I am not quite sure , as to what he could have exactly meant . But it could be
    mano =heart
    Buddhi=intellect
    Chittha=mind
    ahamkara =ego

    collectively called Anthahkarana.
    Namaste Saswathy Ji,

    I think you are right.Thank you.

    More from Himalayan Academy Hindu Lexicon:

    antahkarana: "Inner faculty." The mental faculty of the astral body, sukshma sharira, comprising intellect, instinct and ego -- in Sanskrit, buddhi, manas and ahamkara -- which are a threefold expression of chitta, consciousness. In Saiva Siddhanta, chitta is sometimes listed as a tattva, or part of a tattva, at the prakriti level. In Vedanta, chitta, "mind stuff," is often understood as a part of antahkarana; while in the Saiva Siddhanta, Yoga and Sankhya Darshanas, it is generally viewed as the total mind, of which manas, buddhi and ahamkara are the inner faculties. Thus, while Vedanta describes antahkarana as fourfold, Sankhya and Yoga discuss it as threefold. Siddha Siddhanta views antahkarana as fivefold, with the inclusion of chaitanya as "higher consciousness."



    Quote Originally Posted by Anirudh View Post
    Namaste

    Isn't written in Tamil. Can you give me the exact Tamil Versus. I will try

    Thanks
    Namaste Anirudh Ji,

    I have the verse in English translation and in the book reference number is not given to search for the Tamil original.Thanks

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