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[charitra]

Caste O caste! There are tens of millions of people of indian origin who dont like caste. Many millions like it on the other hand. But they all get along very well. It is of paramount importance that one must slowly transcend the caste barrier for the larger good of hindu faith. At the end of the day it is divisive. Hindus in urban settings have quite successfully blurred the caste lines, and especially the smarter, successful and the higher social strata groups have made it look irrelevant. The marriagess that took place in my friend and family circles in Hyderabad in last 15 years are a clear pointer in this direction, more of inter than intracaste marriages became the rule. That includes a singh and an aggarval as well, embracing our telugus. One can remain happy and proud about ones haritage and lineage, so one doesnt have to shun caste, but at the same time ought to remain cognizant of the potential harm it is causing from some quarters. No one can enforce a marriage on intercaste lines and similarly no one should raise objections should a couple want to get married across caste lines.


The current generation is well on its way to change the hindu caste landscape, regardless of what the procaste advocates have to say, thousands of intercaste marriges are happening annually all over the place. Their financial freedom, complemented with over all liberal outlook transforming the hindu households, has led them away from the tradition and made them take a leap into modernity. Rural people have remained loyal to the tradition nevertheless, thats again isfine for now. On a sadder note the divorce rate is skyrocketting among the hindu couples. This is a clear signal that caste marriagesare less successful now than in the past. Namaste

[Amala]

Namaste Mana,

Me too! LOL I tried 3 times to answer truthfully, but I'm just not a yes/no, black/white dvaita sort of thinker. :-) Of course there was no option as far as caste for me so that stopped me dead in my tracks.... which is fine. I don't care about not being able to take it. Not everything has to be directed at me.

Originally Posted by Mana

Namaste All,

I am very sorry but I find the questions here generally to restrictive to answer; my visual mind does not accept boxes or categorise easily, I tend to see all as one in a universal way, global picture rather than sects and boxes. I genuinely find the questions to be nonsensical.

I'm not from Hindustan, but my path is satya sanAtana dharma.

Sorry not to be of any use to your survey.

praNAma

mana

[Mana]

Originally Posted by Amala

Namaste Mana,

Me too! LOL I tried 3 times to answer truthfully, but I'm just not a yes/no, black/white dvaita sort of thinker. :-) Of course there was no option as far as caste for me so that stopped me dead in my tracks.... which is fine. I don't care about not being able to take it. Not everything has to be directed at me.

Namaste Amala,

Thank you for confirming that the world is not black and white, I was convinced of the colours that I see!

Oh no I don't mind either; it can be rather tiring however, I am regularly mocked in my daily life and told even, that I am alien ...
I do believe that we humans have free will and the capacity for change, so I shall keep plugging away, maybe we can realise that 10000000000 boxes; is all quite simply mAyA, beautiful as it may be; over complication is detrimental advancement, rather resembling a broken mirror, light is scattered indiscriminately giving no clear direction at all.


We all live in the same box!

praNAma

mana

[Mana]

Namaste charitra,

Thank you for your fascinating post, it is of great interest to hear your thoughts on your beautiful culture, and its state of current affairs.

This shifting of time, brings about these changes, especially in the form of caste, as one who has suffered the experience of divorced parents and the adharma that this brings about.

I can only hope that Indians will have the wisdom and foresight to look to the crumbling systems of the West and keep stead fast to the roots of their dharma. It is the roots of dharma and not its branches which hold it steady in a storm! I feel that this is why I was drawn to sanAtana dharma and not Christianity in my time of need.

The marital state of couples is a significant varNa, showing the health of a society; representative of communal stability.
The mess left by the instability of broken families, which created by the ego coming before the collective; leaves fertile ground for spontaneous kundalini awakenings, kAla in all her glorious forms. The whole, the universal self; searches for a new direction.

Sorry for derailing!

I have often thought that it would be great to have threads with branches in these forums, for spin-offs; a visual representation of the thread (sorry there goes my visual thinking again), back on topic!!!

praNAma

mana

[cuddledkitty]

1 yes
2 yes (mulitples, mostly shinto)
3 yes
4 yes
5 yes
6 yes
7 yes
8 H) none, i am a practicing Hindu and very new but the gods i worship are mostly shinto but shintoism is not an act of worship just a mythology
9 Kshatriya if you were to judge my family as military and political. My family is tied to very questionable leaders from Nippon's past along with the Tokugawa family (a ruling regime of japan)
10 H)
11 yes
12 yes
13 no
14 yes (but violence is inevitable)
15 yes
16 no
17 no
18 no
19 no
20 yes (it has a VERY strong misunderstanding which is why i skipped it and converted from Islam)

[hesh86]

OK...
I was afraid I almost lost the topic of the thread here.

Well, it seems that to most people caste is not an important issue. Actually, I wanted to see how a Hindus' religious views influence their attitudes to social reform steps like affirmative action. It looks as though most people don't have an opinion on this or don't know much about this, since they are non-Indian Hindus. Anyway, thanks to all those who are still taking the survey.

[yajvan]

hariḥ oṁ
~~~~~~

namasté

Originally Posted by satay

Caste is part of who I am so people should get used to it and stop complaining about it.

When really understood it makes perfect sense, and upholds dharma. It is not a 'contest' of fairness or opportunity.


praṇām

Originally Posted by satay

namaste,

Caste is part of who I am so people should get used to it and stop complaining about it. I am not giving it up.

Spot on,Sir.