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    Is Lord Shiva vegetarian?And the other devas?

    Namaste all.
    At http://www.harekrsna.com/practice/4r...ian/dharma.htm I founde the following:
    "In Kali-yuga men all over the world are very expert in opening slaughterhouses for killing animals, which they eat. If the old ritualistic ceremonies were observed, people would be encouraged to kill more and more animals. In Calcutta there are many butcher shops which keep a deity of the goddess Kali, and animal-eaters think it proper to purchase animal flesh from such shops in hope that they are eating the remnants of food offered to goddess Kali. They do not know that goddess Kali never accepts nonvegetarian food because she is the chaste wife of Lord Siva. Lord Siva is also a great Vaisnava and never eats nonvegetarian food, and the goddess Kali accepts the remnants of food left by Lord Siva. Therefore there is no possibility of her eating flesh or fish. Such offerings are accepted by the associates of goddess Kali known as bhutas, pisacas and Raksasas, and those who take the prasada of goddess Kali in the shape of flesh or fish are not actually taking the prasada left by goddess Kali, but the food left by the bhutas and pisacas."

    Srimad-Bhagavatam 4:19:36 Purport

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    Are there pramanas in the scriptures that say that Lord Shiva and other devas are vegetarian?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhakta of God
    Are there pramanas in the scriptures that say that Lord Shiva and other devas are vegetarian?
    Namaste,

    In Vedic cult animals were sacrificed to Devas, who were supposed to eat those sacrifices, and vaidika brahmanas ate meat of sacrificial animals as a part of Yajna ritual.

    In Puranas and Itihasas Shiva is thought of as a hunter. Logically he had to eat meat, though exact evidences need to be found. Is here anyone present who has Shiva-purana and other Shaiva-puranas? I think it should be present in these. Kalika-purana says that Krishna was eating meat, drinking wine and enjoying women — which is logical since he was a kshatriya and a king.

    In Tantras Shiva and Kali are seen as eating meat and drinking alcohol. Meat and wine were originally offered to Jagannatha in his temple in Puri, and to his Shakti, Vimala-devi, animal offerings were done.

    ISKCON followers are very eager to prove vegetarianism is Vedic and is a must for everyone. But facts are against such view. Although vegetarianism always was a part of Hinduism, it never was a must for everyone. Moreover, consuming meat was a essential part of many Vedic and Tantric rituals.

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    Gods do not eat your foods and offerings. There is no point in classifying them as vegetarian and non vegetarian.

    Hinduism as not idea of vegetarianism and non vegetarianism. What we believe is Saativic, Rajasic and Tamasi foods. Many try to classify Saaticvic as vegetarianism but it cannot match. For Saativic reject onions and garlic which are verily vegetarian and accepts milk, curd, butter and ghee which are animal foods.

    I am surprised why people verily jump to conclusion on this trying to fit vegetarianism and non vegetarianism to Vedic texts.

    As far as general hindu view is concerned, what 5 great perceptors opine is valid. (Shri Adi sanakara Bhagavatpada, Shrimad Ramanuja, Shri Maadhavacharya, Shri Vallabhacharya and Shri Nimbarka - Shri Chaitanya mahaprabhu is included in Shri Maadhavacharya doctrine). If all these five oppose a thing, it verily goes against the religion as whole. If all these five agree on a thing it automatically becomes general hindu view. We can also add Shaiva siddantavadins in the 5 great perceptor list for they are also a dominant community

    As far as vedic view is concerned, only rituals allow eating meat for participants of those rituals as prasada of the ritual. Even here, we have moved far away from this, condemning Mimaamsaka opinions and most of the rituals are not practised.

    As few rituals by itself are classified as saativic rituals, rajasic rituals and tamasic rituals, it is natural for such rituals to make ordinance accordingly for food. As veda does not precribe meat and alcohol for religious minded people IN NORMAL COURSE and gives preference to Saativic food we can verily conclude Vegetarianism is vedic

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    Lord Shiva is himself the vegetarian and non vegetarian food...why bother about his consuming meat? Dont set rules for the almighty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjuna
    Moreover, consuming meat was a essential part of many Vedic and Tantric rituals.
    It's a part of ritual only and doesn't shaap bimochana mantras implicitely warn why these things are harmful to be addicted to? Performed under a strict mentality of devotion the meaning changes. Tantras don't forcibly stop addictions but greadually tries to overcome the very bondage in mind for them.

    Consuming meat or wine in a ritual is fine~one has to understand the implicit goal there. That doesn't mean being addicted to them in life as well. About non-veg in general as Ramkish said it is not sattvic. It is not a sin or any such thing, but not being addicted to them is highly preferable.

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    ISKCON followers are very eager to prove vegetarianism is Vedic and is a must for everyone. [/quote]
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    Re: Is Lord Shiva vegetarian?And the other devas?

    Of course he refers to every human being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhakta of God
    Of course he refers to every human being.
    Sorry, as you were replying to my post, I was slightly modifying it.
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    Re: Is Lord Shiva vegetarian?And the other devas?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bhava dasa
    If you want to escape the cycle of samsara, don't act in a way that will force you to stay in it.
    I dont think it is a great deal preaching this. Good and noble souls will never kill animals for the reasons of "jiva karunyam" - compassion towards all life. It will take some time for a soul to get to this level of purity. I will not say that a meat eater will not get moksha because it is decided by many other factors too -- but it is unlikely that a soul that has reached close to the doorsteps of God would relish meat eating. Eating meat is not bad, but reveals some kind of cruelty in you, which is not a divine quality.
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    Re: Is Lord Shiva vegetarian?And the other devas?

    Quote Originally Posted by ramkish42
    Gods do not eat your foods and offerings. There is no point in classifying them as vegetarian and non vegetarian.
    Namaste Ramkish, it is said that God eats the life in the food, and you eat the junk left after that. There is a saying in Tamil - avi avanukku miti namakku or something like that.

    Even plants have life and it is a kind of sin to eat them. This is the purpose they are offered to God before eating. God eats the life part of the plant and you eat the left over - See BG 3.13
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