Quote Originally Posted by grames View Post
Dear Satay.,

What is the English word which is Belief that is based on proof? SD is build on that and do we call it science? or rational belief?

But we very commonly use the word "Faith" but with the understanding of "Faith" based on Pramana or Proof! and the Vedanta is built on foundations of such Faith!

Hare Krshna!
Namaste,
So the word "faith" actually means logical acceptance?
My dear friend Grames, the word faith has multiple meanings, just as the word illusion: which may mean "delusion = we see something which is not there" or "wrong perception = we see something as something else." Faith can either mean "belief" or "confidence" from proof.

I think satay was referring to the term "faith" in terms of "belief," I don't think he was referring to it in terms of "confidence."

So, when satay says faith is not needed, he is right, and when you say faith is needed, you are right too.

dictionary.com link for illusion:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/illusion?s=t
dictionary.com link for faith:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/faith?s=t

1 word, multiple meanings...
English is a dumb language I hate it...
Then again, all languages are dumb...
But, then again, if they're no languages, how would we communicate and exchange information and gain knowledge and secure Moksha?
Therefore, I love all languages...


It's all a play.


Vaani [(speech,language) Saraswathi] namastubhayam