Re: Why???
Namaste Renuka ji,
Grames is one of the oldest members here and he has tried to answer your concerns in a nice manner. From my side, I would say this :
a) Every place of discussion which has been there in existence for a long time, has its own history and its own culture. So, it is true for HDF too. It is neither bad or good which are relative terms but it is unique to that place and we must give ourselves time to understand this before becoming judgmental as your post appears to be. I think your stay here has been too short to make an unbiased judgement about this place.
May be you don't like something here because it doesn't fit your idea of what this place should have been but whether your idea is better or what the place has actually become ... must be decided after giving some adequate time to both sides which is lacking in this case, imho.
b) Like a place of discussion, everyone starts having some preferred way of discussing things. You are new here and you may find that your new friends (if you consider us friends) don't behave in the manner you expect, there is need to have patience. May be you need to adapt to this new environment a little, may be you can change something but only when you have earned the trust/love of people here.
I would like to address a few points brought up by you :
Originally Posted by
renuka
I am surprised to see the thread of God is not a mere superintendent closed.
Actually I was not planning to make it into a Varna thread but just to discuss about the Sutra and Sukta in clearer perspective as of why and how certain restrictions came about.
Actually, Varna and Caste topic have been discussed on this forum in the past with heated arguments and quite a few members got banned for losing their calm. You can very well search this forum and see those threads yourself. As this thread was going towards that side, Satay found it fit to close that thread. I think, he has taken a timely action. Everything what could have been discussed/presented on this topic has already been done in those threads and there is no point in discussing the same topic again and again.
I have noted that having any pre conceived notions seems the name of the game here.
Please calm down. It appears to be a biased view or at least a pre-mature view. You are being judgmental.
Even sincere questions to discuss any aspect of Hinduism is shot down by some who think that anyone who has questions is all out to attack Hinduism.
It is not that "all sincere questions are shot down here". Please go through previous threads and decide yourself. Just because, it is not going in your favour, it doesn't mean that people are all biased against you and are intolerant to discuss anything new. Moderators have their way of working and many a times and we should be fair to them as they cannot please each and everyone here.
It seems that
its all copy and paste syndrome here..and
a mutual admiration society and any question from anyone is thought to be only trying to attack Hinduism.
Very very judgmental statement, imo.
We need to be mature..the choice of words of those here who claim to be the defenders of Hinduism at times can be totally lacking decorum and social etiquette.In the name of religion one should not lose social etiquette.
If you feel that someone is intolerant and lacks decorum, please report to the moderators. Satay has been doing a good job. Yajvan ji too keeps a track if people are maintaining proper decorum while discussing on this forum or not. Let's be fair to them. They don't have time to go through all posts and therefore, if some posters go unpunished in spite of using not to nice language, it is because it goes unreported.
In the past I used to think that only those who were belonging to a certain sect of an Abrahamic religion were the ones who have a low threshold of tolerance and would get all stirred up at the drop of a hat or when anyone even draws a cartoon but it seems to be that some Hindus too sadly are moving into that direction.
We must admit that some people in all religions are somewhat intolerant and expecting that everyone would be always receptive to new ideas /conflicting ideas gracefully is not a practical expectation.
I know I stand the risk of being banned for this post of mine and its fine with me if I am banned too because it just seems that no proper discussion is ever allowed without being shot down by SA 11 Missile system in the name of Hindu Dharma.
You are complaining even before any action has been taken against you. You are just assuming and making accusations. This is not fair.
I just have to say this..
Shot through the heart,
And you're to blame
You give Dharm
A Bad name!
Nice poetry. We would like to read more from you. So please stay along. We are not so bad as you have assumed.
OM
"Om Namo Bhagvate Vaasudevaye"
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