Re: "Primitive" archaeological findings
hariḥ oṁ
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namasté sanjaya
Originally Posted by
sanjaya
No, it's OK. I've got my own issues. I get beat up every time I say this, but I'm not sure I believe in jyotish. I want to, especially since we've got a Vedic astrologer in the family who makes remarkably accurate predictions (or so I'm told). But it's difficult to be a real astronomer and believe in astrology, especially when the astrologers give such grossly inaccurate scientific explanations of their art.
I can see why you say this. You see, many try and explain jyotish by ~questionable~ means - trying to add gravity into the equation, push-pull, all this. Yet at the end of the day it is about cycles + the tattva's ( elements or that-ness we find in this universe) and that the planets are representatives of these forces and influences over time.
The great jyotisa-s found in our history put this knowledge in a format that is repeatable & systematic, yet also added a personality to it the graha-s or grāhaka - one who seizes or takes captive.
At the end of the day, just like the scientist, it is the one with the greatest knowledge that gives the best results - who knows the subtler levels of this jyotish. Yet unlike the scientist the great jyotisa's ( and there are a rare few on this planet as of today) have integrated intuition into the equation.
Yet after some 35 years of study I am still surprised by new techniques, a new law or rule that explains why a certain combination works ( a yoga as it is called). I still consider myself a śiṣya ( student). I have yielded to the fact that this knowledge is so vast and deep to consider oneself other then a student is just folly and a puffing up of the ego.
When it is all said and done one can take the greatest precautions in calculations, be very knowledgeable and still be wrong . I have seen this. Hence one's estimates and predictions crumble. Yet one needs to be mindful that jyotish is about trends, influences, nudges here and there that occur. Just as a great sailing ship is guided by its rudder, a slight change in the wind direction and a new course is set. This is the influence of the graha's.
praṇām
यतस्त्वं शिवसमोऽसि
yatastvaṁ śivasamo'si
because you are identical with śiva
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