Originally Posted by
yajvan
hariḥ oṁ
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Let me end by saying, I am not suggesting or inferring a lack of discipline is in order. If you are equating effort to discipline then I too concur. Discipline gives one continunity of practice, Yet if discipline is applied to whipping the mind, and overt control of it , I do not concur.
Namaste Yajvan,
I agree. But possibly none can match the brevity of Nuno Matos.
(No one denies that discipline is the key requirement but it is also true that many varieties of men are taught many varieties of discipline regimes and different people are invariably at different evolutionary levels. For one person Pranayama may be required before any tranquility is attained and for another person a small remembrance of Lord may be sufficient. And there may be others who may be so immature that Pranayama or any other technique will not give them any benefit. Some of those who will hold rigidly that all other ways are inferior to their preferred way may go on to become terrorists).
There is a story in south indian Shiva lore about Sundara and another hard liner Shiva Bhakta, who maintained the notion that Shiva has taught only one way and that his preferred way is that only one way. Finally Shiva gave him a lesson lovingly that all paths are Shiva's paths and He alone is the leader of all paths.
The goal is the "the Lord, who is without parts, without actions, tranquil, blameless, unattached, the supreme bridge to Immortality, and like a fire that has consumed all its fuel".
Svetasvatara Upanishad
When men shall roll up space as if it were a piece of hide, then there will be an end of misery without one’s cultivating the Knowledge of the Lord, who is without parts, without actions, tranquil, blameless, unattached, the supreme bridge to Immortality, and like a fire that has consumed all its fuel.
It may occur as dissapointment to some that the goal is the fire that has consumed all its fuel. And it may be impossible also to attain the Lord who is without parts and without actions, by clinging as a part and by holding on to various notions of actions to the point of aversion and derision of paths that are apparently alien to one's preferred path.
Om Namah Shivaya
PS: Even the sleep comes only when the fire that consumes all its fuel
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