
18 January 2008, 11:36 AM
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Re: Dream
Hari Om
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Rajalakshmi wrote
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Namaste yajvanji,
The 'gap' is technically called the granti or the knot( a doorway). The gap by itself cannot be used to experience turIya, but is one step leading to it. Only by crossing all the three grantis - turIya is experienced.
The gap between the jAgrat and taijasa is Brahma granti - without 'breaking' this knot, it is not possible to enter taijasa. The gap between taijasa and prAgnya is vishNu granti. The gap between prAgnyA and turIya is called rudra granti.
All these three gaps are also known as sandhyA. prAtaH sandhyA is Brahma granti ( dawn of wisdom), mAdhyAnika sandhyA(noon of wisdom) is Vishnu granti and sAyam sandhyA(dusk of wisdom) is rudra granti. All these are 'daylight' of Sabda Brahman.
turIya is called the midnight of Sabda Brahman.
But just entering into turIya state alone, one does not get liberation. In the high awareness of the turIya state, we must 'destroy' all seeds of vAsanas, without which samAdhi cannot be maintained perpetually. In the turIya samAdhi also there is disturbance of the indiryas brought about by vAsanas, so it takes a while to retain it permanently.
~RL
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Namaste Rajalakshmi,
A very good point indeed.... yes we have talked often here on saṁdhyā , their timings of the day ( this is in the Meditation & Jyotish folders if there is interest) and how one can use these timings as beneficial to meditation.
I also agree with you that
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But just entering into turIya state alone, one does not get liberation
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The benefit of this, of experiencing this gap this granti ( some write granthi) is to culture the mind that there is something other then wake-dream-sleep. It is an ahhhh-ha! for the mind.
I also agree with your assessment
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we must 'destroy' all seeds of vAsanas, without which samAdhi cannot be maintained perpetually. In the turIya samAdhi also there is disturbance of the indiryas brought about by vAsanas, so it takes a while to retain it permanently
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Yes, and knowledge is the greatest purifier... pure knowledge ( pure consciousness) is the purest purifier. I find this to be the best 'breaker' or flushing mechanism of these vasanas.
I agree these knots must be broken... this wisdom is not my epiphany, but of the Chandogya Upanishad ( I offer this for the reader as I assume you are well acquainted with these slokas ).
Chapter 7 holds the conversation between Narada and rsi Sanatkumara's teaching. Sanatkumaraji offers bhuma vidya.
When this bhuma becomes firm and constant then the knots are broken ,sarva-granthīnām vipramokṣha. Yet the knot in the heart, this hṛdayagranthi, is broken by the the perception of the Supreme, tasmin dṛṣhṭe parātpare.
But who is there to help? Who is there to assist to break this final knot?
bhagvan sanatkumara the Upanishad says, also known as skanda.
This is the blessing found in this Upanishad.
pranams,
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