Yoga for renunciation

[astrostudent]

Namaste,

I know about sannyasa yoga, but I am also sure that not all who renounced had four or more planets in one sign. So this makes me wonder whether there are other combinations. Also, how important is the navamsa chart to find out whether a person is going renounce?

Peace,
Astro

[astrostudent]

Okay, since no one has answered, I'll post something about great renunciants like Vivekananda and Osho. Both of them had sanyasa yoga, more than three planets in one house. I can't be sure of other sanyasis, though. Nor am I clear about pravrajya yoga. Gandhi appeared to have had it.

[anirvan]

i think many members here are not familiar with astrology.again in my thinking those members who are so evolved and deep into spiritual life hardly give any importance to such astrology.in my believe also, who loves god by heart and surrendered himself,hardly cares about astrology or future study etc.

[Eastern Mind]

Vannakkam astrostudent: As far as I know, sannyasin's jyothish are a random sampling of charts. I think the charts would point to the strengths of each person. So within a large monastery (like the 800 monks in the Swaminarayan fellowship) some would be better as writers, some as promoters, some in temple design, and so on. But there would be no common element in them all suggesting that their disposition is ato be a monk. Of course I could be wrong. If I get a casual chance to ask my monk-astrologer sannyasin friend some day, I'll ask. Of course, that would be another way to proceed with this question ... ask someone associated with a Math.

Aum Namasivaya

[yajvan]

hariḥ oṁ
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namasté

There is a trend one will see in a chart... it is not random. Yet one item does not make saṃyas (some write sannyāsin).


First does the person have a spiritual orientation? One must look at the ārūḍha¹ lagna and graha's therefrom ( 3rd and 6th houses), the 12th house - house of loss, the D9 chart, spiritual orientation, the D20 chart ; the 8th house, not to mention the concentration of graha's in one sign or house.

From there one then needs to determine if one withdraws from the daily activities of household life.


praṇām


words
ārūḍha - mounted , ascended ; raised up; For jyotish it is under the cognizance of the senses , how one is perceived

[yajvan]

hariḥ oṁ
~~~~~~

namasté


... it is not random

One also cannot overlook the 5th house - it deals with knowledge, spiritual practices ( also children ) and is the 9th from the 9th house. It is a rāśi¹ that is associated with pūrva puṇya¹.

dhīmanta yoga
dhīmanta yoga is formed when the 1st house lord is in the 3rd or 6th house. The person is then intellectually inquisitive. A very nice foundation for the inquisition into Self, no?


One can also view this dhīmanta yoga from the ātmakarāka postion, and from the ārūḍha lagna as mentioned in the post above.


If one looks to the ārūḍha of the 9th house, one can see ones faith. If we find rāhu there, then one has many questions about faith, saturn will influence to loose one's faith and perhaps leave/exit their existing religion. Yet the fire of mars gives one stamina to the point of being zealous.

All these things contribute to see of one takes on sannyās.



praṇām

words

rāśi - is a heap, a mass, a pile, a group; in joytiṣ it is the name given to sign, as a collection point
pūrva puṇya: pūrva = former , prior , preceding , previous to , earlier than + puṇya = good , right , virtuous , meritorious , pure , holy , sacred
The virtious actions that bear fruit from the past.

[astrostudent]

Thanks, Y, for the detailed explanation.

But I am curious about one thing. Isn't Arudha lagna mostly about the illusion we project about ourselves? Lagna is our true self, and AL is the perception that others have about us, a perception which may or may not be true.

So how is this related to a person's spiritual growth?

[yajvan]

hariḥ oṁ
~~~~~~

namasté



But I am curious about one thing. Isn't Arudha lagna mostly about the illusion we project about ourselves? Lagna is our true self, and AL is the perception that others have about us, a perception which may or may not be true.




ārūḍha - mounted , ascended ; raised up; For jyotish it is under the cognizance of the senses , how one is perceived.


It is how others see us, and also how we see ourselves. Does one see themselves as the sannyāsin? AL is a valid location for consideration.

praṇām